What is the ruling on taking a loan from an Islamic bank? Is it permissible or is it riba? No, it is permissible, inshaAllah the Exalted, if they give you a loan. I don't know of any Islamic bank that gives loans.
Do they give loans? Does Mubarak give?
They don't give, they don't give loans. Some of them do. The important thing is, if it is a good loan, then there is no problem. But if it is a riba-based loan, it is not allowed, regardless of who gives it to you, even if it is a conventional bank.
If he gives you a good loan, it is permissible, even if the person is deeply involved in riba.
If he gives you a good loan, there is no problem. The important thing is the loan itself, we don't care who gives the loan.
If the loan is according to the Sharia, it is permissible. If the loan is riba-based, it is not allowed, even if it is a hundred percent Islamic bank.
And this time he says, I'll make an interest-based loan; that's not allowed.
It's not about whether it's Bankistan or Moroccan.